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Post by rckymntn05 on Jan 12, 2009 16:41:03 GMT -5
I have been doing a lot of research on lockers, and it seems that in new england, since we are so praised with snow and ice, doing an auto locker in rear isn't very good for snow. People who have them in the front however say you don't even know there there in 2wd. I drive in snow in 2wd most of the time anyways, so I figured this would be a good set up until I could afford a selectable locker for the rear.
Just wondering if just having a front locker on a vehicle that only sees occasional offroading is bad, or if it's fine? I take it off road maybe once a month if that. I just want something in there because if I get hung up one more time on something rediculous that would have never happened had I had a locker, I'll end up doing something I'll regret to the jeep, like kicking the door in. Let me know what you think.
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Post by Buffalo Phil on Jan 12, 2009 16:49:59 GMT -5
how is an auto locker in the rear not good for snow?
I have one in both of my vehicles and I haven't had any problem with either for the past 2 winter seasons.
I also have a front locker in my XJ, but rarely use 4wd in the snow so...
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Post by XJLI on Jan 12, 2009 16:52:59 GMT -5
i vote autolocker in rear is better in the snow than open diffs.
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Post by rckymntn05 on Jan 12, 2009 16:54:56 GMT -5
how is an auto locker in the rear not good for snow? I have one in both of my vehicles and I haven't had any problem with either for the past 2 winter seasons. I also have a front locker in my XJ, but rarely use 4wd in the snow so... Because when your going around a corner, if you step on the gas and it engages, you could slide the ass end. I've also heard there not good for a manual tranny vehicle because every time you shift and let off the gas then step on it again, it is constantly engaging and dissengaging. just wondering because thats just what I've heard. |
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Post by hydra on Jan 12, 2009 16:57:29 GMT -5
I've heard the opposite, meaning the fronts will give you issues in the snow
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Post by XJLI on Jan 12, 2009 17:02:13 GMT -5
Because when your going around a corner, if you step on the gas and it engages, you could slide the ass end. I've also heard there not good for a manual tranny vehicle because every time you shift and let off the gas then step on it again, it is constantly engaging and dissengaging. just wondering because thats just what I've heard. it will if youre crazy and gun it around every corner. ive found the locked rear to be much more controllable in ken block situations than an open rear. I've heard the opposite, meaning the fronts will give you issues in the snow same sort of issue. floor it in 4wd around a turn and the truck will push into the corner. go easy on the gas and its fine. bottom line: be aware of your modifications, and adjust your driving accordingly. |
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Post by DUG on Jan 12, 2009 17:20:36 GMT -5
Lock rear first.
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Post by HeavyMetal on Jan 12, 2009 17:21:13 GMT -5
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Post by Dr. Thunder on Jan 12, 2009 17:35:35 GMT -5
Locked front and rear, the front is an auto locker, performs great in every single situation except when stopping on ice/snow and a tire locks up. The most horrible what the hell sound is that ever. Justin's does it too.
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Post by Buffalo Phil on Jan 12, 2009 17:39:08 GMT -5
how is an auto locker in the rear not good for snow? I have one in both of my vehicles and I haven't had any problem with either for the past 2 winter seasons. I also have a front locker in my XJ, but rarely use 4wd in the snow so... Because when your going around a corner, if you step on the gas and it engages, you could slide the ass end. I've also heard there not good for a manual tranny vehicle because every time you shift and let off the gas then step on it again, it is constantly engaging and dissengaging. just wondering because thats just what I've heard. You've heard wrong because in the snow a rear locker will never disengage. Too little traction to disengage it. |
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Post by Jeep Creep on Jan 12, 2009 17:47:24 GMT -5
Locked front and rear, the front is an auto locker, performs great in every single situation except when stopping on ice/snow and a tire locks up. The most horrible what the hell sound is that ever. Justin's does it too. ok good so its not just my locker. horrible racheting sound. first time i drove my jeep in the snow and hit the brakes i hear a crazy racheting im like WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON! |
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Post by Wide-J on Jan 12, 2009 17:51:38 GMT -5
I can speak from experience in my YJ when it had a 4cyl with stock axles, 35's, and an Aussie up front. I had an Aussie up front and I think it performed awesome. I liked that I was able to pull myself up and not have to try to bump myself up something as I would with a locked rear. Im sure people are going to disagree, so be it. I have done large sections of Rock Creek with just disengaging the rear just to see if I could. I dont think it would have performed as well with just a rear.
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Post by rckymntn05 on Jan 12, 2009 18:23:11 GMT -5
I can speak from experience in my YJ when it had a 4cyl with stock axles, 35's, and an Aussie up front. I had an Aussie up front and I think it performed awesome. I liked that I was able to pull myself up and not have to try to bump myself up something as I would with a locked rear. Im sure people are going to disagree, so be it. I have done large sections of Rock Creek with just disengaging the rear just to see if I could. I dont think it would have performed as well with just a rear. Yea thats all I needed to hear, haha. I think I may lock the front for now and then when I have some extra cash, I'll get a selectable for the rear. This IS my everyday vehicle, and it did cost $15,000, so I figure 800$ for a rear locker isn't bad. Plus, the way the TJ 4wd is set up, as opposed to older jeeps means you wont even notice a front locker is there in 2wd. Thats what everyone says about the TJ's, but I guess in YJ's and older, a front locker will actually cause it to push a bit in snow, even in 2wd. Don't know why. I'd like to ride in a rear auto-locked vehicle just to see how it sounds/acts on the road and preferably in snow. I know I'm a noob to this but I like to know EVERYTHING I possibly can before buying, and I figure I'm going to put a lock right in the front either way, so thats going in first. Thanks for the help once again all, and if anyone else has anything to contribute, feel free to. |
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Post by HeavyMetal on Jan 12, 2009 18:37:07 GMT -5
I can speak from experience in my YJ when it had a 4cyl with stock axles, 35's, and an Aussie up front. I had an Aussie up front and I think it performed awesome. I liked that I was able to pull myself up and not have to try to bump myself up something as I would with a locked rear. Im sure people are going to disagree, so be it. I have done large sections of Rock Creek with just disengaging the rear just to see if I could. I dont think it would have performed as well with just a rear. i have done all of rock creek with only a rear locker by default...the sword slices both ways. there is no end that is always better to lock..it is dependent on your situation each and everytime specifically. |
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Post by DUG on Jan 12, 2009 19:21:15 GMT -5
I can speak from experience in my YJ when it had a 4cyl with stock axles, 35's, and an Aussie up front. I had an Aussie up front and I think it performed awesome. I liked that I was able to pull myself up and not have to try to bump myself up something as I would with a locked rear. Im sure people are going to disagree, so be it. I have done large sections of Rock Creek with just disengaging the rear just to see if I could. I dont think it would have performed as well with just a rear. there is no end that is always better to lock..it is dependent on your situation each and everytime specifically. Yep, but 80% of the time its the rear end you need more traction at and not the front. el oh el  |
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