Revolver Shackles...

[loudog3114]

I know ben has em so this is directed at him and whoever else has used em. How do you like them? Did they add $200 worth of flex or are they just cool looking? In theory they seem pretty badass but I dont think ive ever seen em on a jeep flexed out so I cant tell if they make a big diff or not.

When I convert my AAL to a real 4.5" leaf setup I may end up using these.

[YeaItsCold]

loudog3114 said:

I know ben has em so this is directed at him and whoever else has used em. How do you like them? Did they add $200 worth of flex or are they just cool looking? In theory they seem pretty badass but I dont think ive ever seen em on a jeep flexed out so I cant tell if they make a big diff or not.

When I convert my AAL to a real 4.5" leaf setup I may end up using these.

I personally dont plan on using them.. just seems like they take too much weight off the back tires.. after watching ben spin his tires on somthing and seeing them constantly move up and down i say no.. But i have no actual facts here..

[heapxj]

Gravity is a constant, remember that. If you saw the shackle opening, it was doing it's job by letting the tire remain on the ground and letting the body flex. Keeping the tire on the ground allows for constant traction. Yes we can all argue that static and kinetic friction is caused by normal force, i.e. vehicle wight shifting around side to side but two wheels making contact is allways better than one.

I was wheeling in Tame Mt a few weeks ago. Jon hopped out and watched me as I drove up a hill. I slowly drove the front tires onto it and then let it rip. he said that when my rear tires hit the hill, the rear of the Jeep jumped upwards and the shacles opened. He told me that the tires remained on the ground. They would have most likely came came off if I didn't have those.

You won't notice anything different about the driving characteristics of your jeep when you have them until you ocassionally get into a tight spot and notice that your rear end is so drooped out that you want to get out and take a picture.

As they do work to your advantage once in a while, there is nothing wrong with a standard shackle. The real reason I bought them is because I want to go on a ramp someday and beat Jon he placed second at the Jeep rally.

James, try to find a used set, they are out there. they give you an extra 1.5" of lift over stock if you really want a pair.

[heapxj]

Here is one draw back of having these things. The hi-Lift is all the way at the top and the shackle is opened almost halfway. This renders the Hi-Lift useless for me now. The front will flex a mile and so will the rear. I have to carry a floor jack now.

[loudog3114]

nice man. I didnt know they added lift, maybe ill throw some 2" spacers up front to balance it when I do it. I guess ill have to get some real extended brake lines and maybe an sye at that point... or I can just do it tennis style and have an 8" short arm lift with no sye

[loudog3114]

btw what does jon have for a setup that gave him so much flex? he doesnt even have revolvers does he?

[Rico]

is it true these things unload when u r going down hill or down a grade?

[HeavyMetal]

im pretty positive that revolver shackles will not net you much more than .5 inches of lift.

at least thats what we found when researching for mike when he was thinkin about em, and countless searches

from naxja on a quick search
"no, revolvers do not provide any lift over stock. i called on that awhile back and those were the exact words of the technician."

also something to watch out for with these is they will increase axle wrap, when they load and unload that will be changing the pinion angle (in effect rotating your axle pinion up and down) which is a nice way to generate wrap on the springs

if you want a lot of flex in the back, i would just do shackle relocation to better your angle, as seen below:

This is your 'normal' shackle angle in the back of the XJ


here's the relocation method:




No unloading or anything revolver related, and same flex effect.

[heapxj]

They give you 1.5" over stock. I'm running UBE's 1.5" over stock with 3.5" over stock leafs and revolvers. 1.5" + 3.5" + 1.5" = 6.5"

[YeaItsCold]

www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=49645&highlight=revolvers

[HeavyMetal]

yeaitsslo said:

www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=49645&highlight=revolvers

Thank you Mr. Slo

heapxj said:

They give you 1.5" over stock. I'm running UBE's 1.5" over stock with 3.5" over stock leafs and revolvers. 1.5" + 3.5" + 1.5" = 6.5"

what company's leaf pack are you running

3.5 packs typically run large, which is one of the reasons RE sells the 3.5 pack in their 4.5 kits, w/ a .75" true lift shackle and the gains are always far more than 4.5. I know i got 6" out of my RE 3.5 packs with the .75 inch shackle.

[Rico]

Thanks will thats the exact guy who's post i was looking at on NAXJA I couldnt find it anymore an dI think i may want to do that.

[YeaItsCold]

i was checkin out teraflex's website and they say its a 1.5 lift with their shackle but everyone says they get little to no lift with them?

[HeavyMetal]

rubicon express advertises their shackles to be 1.25" lift shackles when in the real world theyre only .75"

[heapxj]

I have god damn Rusty's. Believe me, they are no larger than advertised. It's starting to sag. When everything was new and installed, the Jeep was perfectly level and straight. Now the back is down 1/8"