Grand D44

[Saharicon]

Would there be any problems putting a grand cherokee D44 in a TJ? Besides brackets obviously.. i can get on efor $150 and was wondering pros and cons

[Bigbike]

They are Alluminum centers i believe. They are weaker but i think they make skids to strengthin it up. There is also not alot of aftermarket for lockers, im not sure about gears.

[HeavyMetal]

a d44 is a d44 is a d44.....any locker for ours will fit for that. its also still a 30 spline. the center section is indeed aluminum...is this out of a ZJ or a wj?
zj 44s are c-clipped, and gay. the pinion shaft is pretty beef apparently.

also gear ratio is something u need to consider...prettyy much a guarantee it isnt 3.07s like u have

i wouldnt do it IMO. an xj 44 would make more sense even....tj being ideal (duh)

[Saharicon]

ok fair enough, just thought i would ask, i heard enough now. It was just cheap and thought i would entertain the idea

[HeavyMetal]

rgr dgr

[XJLI]

Nov 26, 2008 13:01:01 GMT -5 HeavyMetal said:

a d44 is a d44 is a d44.....any locker for ours will fit for that. its also still a 30 spline. the center section is indeed aluminum...is this out of a ZJ or a wj?
zj 44s are c-clipped, and gay. the pinion shaft is pretty beef apparently.

also gear ratio is something u need to consider...prettyy much a guarantee it isnt 3.07s like u have

let me correct you sir william.

it is not the same. its a D44a, the axle is the same in ZJs/WJs, and C5 and C4 vettes. the centr is indeed aluminum, but everything is completely different than a standard 44. you need 44a gears, 44a carrier, 44a locker. the only 44a locker is the aussie which is out of production and occasionally pops up for ~350-400 bucks, otherwise youre stuck with a clutch type LSD. they are a very strong (as far as power goes) axle, but for off-road abuse, theyre marginal. 33s locked/35s open would be it's limit. i think BTF just came out with a nice full cover for them though.

and cody has 3.07s with an auto trans???

[HeavyMetal]

my memory deceives me.

either way. dont get the POS.

thats what his tag says on his diff, i thought it was odd too...but apparently an option on tjs

[grundlepunch]

i might have a tj d44 for sale in a few...

got a hot lead on a narrowed d60 that i might hop on. ill let you know if i do

[Saharicon]

k thx, dana.. you know about how much youll want?

[grundlepunch]

notsure, but it would be a few bucks, its steves old axle that has a warn full float cromo kit, detroit, and 4:56's

been running it for about a year now, no issues but when my tires wear out i might want to go bigger

[HeavyMetal]

steves axle is a wider one with different bolt pattern isnt it?

and isnt it set up fro a clayton rear? or is that tj bolt in..? thought it was triangulated....i know front is tj bolt in..

[XJLI]

Nov 26, 2008 13:30:13 GMT -5 HeavyMetal said:

thats what his tag says on his diff, i thought it was odd too...but apparently an option on tjs

thats weak.

i only know all of this bc i talk to jay (lakailimited06) about the axle on occasion. worth it to him (bolt in, duh) not really for a TJ. although i THINK ZJ d44as are the same as TJs out back. dont quote me on it though. WJ rears are different, they use some ghey single triangle upper.

[Saharicon]

ok just let me know

[HeavyMetal]

i believe i looked into this once...zj 44s shouldnt be a bolt in job

[grundlepunch]

personally i would just get a ford 8.8 (that matches your gearing) and get a YOKE not a flange adapter and just re use your brackets or buy a bracket kit and be done with it